http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/media-amnesia-the-worst-roster-in-sports/ Sports Media Bias Exposed Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:58:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/media-amnesia-the-worst-roster-in-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-821 GoldyThaMack Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:20:10 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=129#comment-821 When it comes to the knicks roster i will agree that Isiah Thomas has done a great job of making our roster younger by pulling off some outstanding trades and drafts. The problem with this formula is, even though our roster has become younger and more athletic, no player Isiah has brought in is either, a. a proven winner, see entire roster except Malik Rose, b. a legitamate score or c. any quality playoff experience. Until these draft picks are playoff tested or even in the league for a while we have no way of knowing how good they will be. The problem is that tryin to package these young players for a real difference maker will be impossible because these players have no playoff experience and the problem is that if they do develop playoff experience it will be with the knicks so why should we trade them at that point, interesting position we are in. Now while the players have become younger and more athletic we still dont have a player, with the rare exception of Crwford when he's hot, who can take over a game a guarantee us a win. All we have is a bunch of over-paid, under achievers. For all his moves Isiah still hasnt addressed the issue of adding a playoff tested veteran, Malik Rose is Playoff tested but never cracks the rotation so his experience is a non-issue. Everyone else added are 1st round maybe 1 win and done, that strategy will never get us into title contention. you need to know how to win in order to excecute and the collection of players added by Isiah thomas have no idea how to win games, as evidenced last season when we lost many games on last second shots and even more games from slow starts. On top of that Isiah still hasn't addressed our glarin Defensive deficiencies, we have no defensive stoppers or any shot blockers which makes getting key stops which win games impossible. This is ashame considering Isiah comes from 2 organizations that stress defense which wins games. Indiana and detriot to not address this issue shows that Isiah, even though he is a great evaluator of young talent hasnt learned how to win in the NBA. So while the players assembled are better on paper than the roster he inherited it in no way equals wins which is all the fans want. Do you really think any New Yorker has a problem with payin a guy outlandish sums of money to play a game if he wins? I think not just look at the Yankees when they win no-one mentions the payroll, when they lose we hate it, because even though it isnt our money we care about wins and loses, bottom line Another knock on Isiah is that for being such a tough player he treats his players with kid gloves, look at the Larry brown situation, Stephon Complains that he wAnts to be used like A.I. but you cant score like A.I. when Larry brown calls him on this Stephon runs to Isiah who effectively chooses Stephon a proven loser or Larry brown a proven winner at every level, doesn't make sense. Now understand this the fans of the Knicks dont care about a player getting preferential treatment but you gotta put up instead of treating players with kid gloves he should expect excellence which is all the fans want. The knicks have never been the yankees, so buying players has never been our way and i dont expect that but i do expect that the players give their all and under Isiah the Knicks have underachieved. Would Patrick Ewing and Charles Oakley ever have allowed players on their team to underachieve the way the Knicks have recently? I think Not Instead our Team is headed by both Isiah Thomas and Stephon Marbury who are happy with supposed to be nice players who never achieve their potential. this is not the ideal situation for our younger players to strive. So while we are younger it doesn't necessarily mean we're better When it comes to the knicks roster i will agree that Isiah Thomas has done a great job of making our roster younger by pulling off some outstanding trades and drafts. The problem with this formula is, even though our roster has become younger and more athletic, no player Isiah has brought in is either, a. a proven winner, see entire roster except Malik Rose, b. a legitamate score or c. any quality playoff experience. Until these draft picks are playoff tested or even in the league for a while we have no way of knowing how good they will be. The problem is that tryin to package these young players for a real difference maker will be impossible because these players have no playoff experience and the problem is that if they do develop playoff experience it will be with the knicks so why should we trade them at that point, interesting position we are in. Now while the players have become younger and more athletic we still dont have a player, with the rare exception of Crwford when he’s hot, who can take over a game a guarantee us a win. All we have is a bunch of over-paid, under achievers.
For all his moves Isiah still hasnt addressed the issue of adding a playoff tested veteran, Malik Rose is Playoff tested but never cracks the rotation so his experience is a non-issue. Everyone else added are 1st round maybe 1 win and done, that strategy will never get us into title contention. you need to know how to win in order to excecute and the collection of players added by Isiah thomas have no idea how to win games, as evidenced last season when we lost many games on last second shots and even more games from slow starts. On top of that Isiah still hasn’t addressed our glarin Defensive deficiencies, we have no defensive stoppers or any shot blockers which makes getting key stops which win games impossible. This is ashame considering Isiah comes from 2 organizations that stress defense which wins games. Indiana and detriot to not address this issue shows that Isiah, even though he is a great evaluator of young talent hasnt learned how to win in the NBA. So while the players assembled are better on paper than the roster he inherited it in no way equals wins which is all the fans want. Do you really think any New Yorker has a problem with payin a guy outlandish sums of money to play a game if he wins? I think not just look at the Yankees when they win no-one mentions the payroll, when they lose we hate it, because even though it isnt our money we care about wins and loses, bottom line
Another knock on Isiah is that for being such a tough player he treats his players with kid gloves, look at the Larry brown situation, Stephon Complains that he wAnts to be used like A.I. but you cant score like A.I. when Larry brown calls him on this Stephon runs to Isiah who effectively chooses Stephon a proven loser or Larry brown a proven winner at every level, doesn’t make sense. Now understand this the fans of the Knicks dont care about a player getting preferential treatment but you gotta put up instead of treating players with kid gloves he should expect excellence which is all the fans want. The knicks have never been the yankees, so buying players has never been our way and i dont expect that but i do expect that the players give their all and under Isiah the Knicks have underachieved. Would Patrick Ewing and Charles Oakley ever have allowed players on their team to underachieve the way the Knicks have recently? I think Not Instead our Team is headed by both Isiah Thomas and Stephon Marbury who are happy with supposed to be nice players who never achieve their potential. this is not the ideal situation for our younger players to strive. So while we are younger it doesn’t necessarily mean we’re better

]]> http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/media-amnesia-the-worst-roster-in-sports/comment-page-1/#comment-653 Thomas Vogler Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:53:46 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=129#comment-653 Great job. Totally agree with chapter one. I had to comment even before jumping to the next chapter. I used to carry a copy of the Knicks roster that Isiah inherited in my wallet to silence the Isiah bashers. While in 2007 your points are valid, I think it even more amazing to see where the members of that roster were in 2005 a scant two years after Isiah took over. They were mostly scrubs or out of the league THEN. A roster THAT expensive, composed entirely of guys who were once OK (not greta, but OK) but were way overpaid and on their last legs, or young guys who had NO talent. Great job. Totally agree with chapter one. I had to comment even before jumping to the next chapter. I used to carry a copy of the Knicks roster that Isiah inherited in my wallet to silence the Isiah bashers. While in 2007 your points are valid, I think it even more amazing to see where the members of that roster were in 2005 a scant two years after Isiah took over. They were mostly scrubs or out of the league THEN. A roster THAT expensive, composed entirely of guys who were once OK (not greta, but OK) but were way overpaid and on their last legs, or young guys who had NO talent.

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