Comments on: The Book of Isiah: Unraveling “The Biggest Myth in Sports” http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/ Sports Media Bias Exposed Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:58:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: Knicks Revivalism (Part 2: Divine Numerology; Arm Chair Joe Questions; and to Hang Ten at the Tides Crest or Wipe Out Amidst a Tsunami of Immense Expectations) « Knicks Fanatics http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-70988 Knicks Revivalism (Part 2: Divine Numerology; Arm Chair Joe Questions; and to Hang Ten at the Tides Crest or Wipe Out Amidst a Tsunami of Immense Expectations) « Knicks Fanatics Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:21:59 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-70988 [...] [2] For a thorough discussion of the Knicks’ dearth of talent under the Scott Layden regime and the Herculean efforts of Isiah Thomas to revive the Franchises’ talent base, See http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128 [...] [...] [2] For a thorough discussion of the Knicks’ dearth of talent under the Scott Layden regime and the Herculean efforts of Isiah Thomas to revive the Franchises’ talent base, See http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128 [...]

]]> By: eddie guerrero http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-2782 eddie guerrero Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:16:07 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-2782 <strong>eddie guerrero...</strong> Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts..... eddie guerrero…

Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts…..

]]> By: MODI http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-2206 MODI Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:02:33 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-2206 Marc, thanks for this. Hadn't seen it. Quite typical inciteful media and typical Simmons. Will tackle this soon. Thanks. Marc, thanks for this. Hadn’t seen it. Quite typical inciteful media and typical Simmons. Will tackle this soon. Thanks.

]]> By: Marc R http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-2203 Marc R Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:41:07 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-2203 MODI- Did you see this? http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071205 How can they let someone who lives across the country from MSG talk about what the atmosphere is like at MSG? I am a season ticket holder and, even though the team's record has been abysmal for over two years, the crowd is often raucous and supportive of the squad. There are more sellouts than not, and far fewer no-shows than almost any other arena. Simmons is "reporting" based on a few emails he gets from his readers and friends (who undoubtedly know about his anti-Isiah leanings). Knicks fans don't hate this team, the media (and Simmons' me-too army apparently) hate this team. I can't wait for Chapter 8 in this series. MODI-

Did you see this? http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071205

How can they let someone who lives across the country from MSG talk about what the atmosphere is like at MSG? I am a season ticket holder and, even though the team’s record has been abysmal for over two years, the crowd is often raucous and supportive of the squad. There are more sellouts than not, and far fewer no-shows than almost any other arena.

Simmons is “reporting” based on a few emails he gets from his readers and friends (who undoubtedly know about his anti-Isiah leanings). Knicks fans don’t hate this team, the media (and Simmons’ me-too army apparently) hate this team.

I can’t wait for Chapter 8 in this series.

]]> By: Detour Through Brooklyn » Blog Archive » Knicks Prediction http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1330 Detour Through Brooklyn » Blog Archive » Knicks Prediction Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:18:13 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-1330 [...] Now there almost isn’t any reason for me to even continue writing. It’s called “The Book of Isiah- Unraveling The Biggest Myth in Sports”. I’ve been trying to explain the stuff in that article in forums for years, that’s why [...] [...] Now there almost isn’t any reason for me to even continue writing. It’s called “The Book of Isiah- Unraveling The Biggest Myth in Sports”. I’ve been trying to explain the stuff in that article in forums for years, that’s why [...]

]]> By: MODI http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-694 MODI Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:34:27 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-694 Peaceman, "reason" and "logic" must trump all else, and your statement seems to be air tight on both fronts. Peaceman, “reason” and “logic” must trump all else, and your statement seems to be air tight on both fronts.

]]> By: Peaceman http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-692 Peaceman Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:24:53 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-692 Modi As I have posted on the Knicksdefense blog, Alan Hahn removed a new picture of himself when the guys started pokeing fun of it the other day! It was gone before Midday and replaced with his old one. Are we to believe that he has the power to change his Picture but defers the word "WHACKY" to a tech's decision? I feel he has straight out LIED and forgot about the change he made so quickly! Whats your take on this? Modi
As I have posted on the Knicksdefense blog, Alan Hahn removed a new picture of himself when the guys started pokeing fun of it the other day! It was gone before Midday and replaced with his old one.
Are we to believe that he has the power to change his Picture but defers the word “WHACKY” to a tech’s decision? I feel he has straight out LIED and forgot about the change he made so quickly!
Whats your take on this?

]]> By: MODI http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-687 MODI Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:13:41 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-687 O & B, The short answer is "amen to Steady!". The long answer is this: A very well written response and I do agree with the stance. Now, relative to the daily rags known as "Post" and "News", the "wacky" sub-heading is rather tame (as are the movies SAW I, II, and III!). So while the cause falls a tad short of the Montgomery Bus boycott, we are still quite right to nip it in the bud. There is simply no question about it that it is pandering. "The fixers" are the customer base which seemed to make our feelings known. And like you, I am a fan of Alan who IMO is a close- second best NY Knicks beat writer after Howard Beck. But I was a little troubled by Alan's response: "Threatening to boycott me like I'm Sal's Famous Pizza? That's on you. This blog will be here. It's my house, all are welcome to come and go as they please. Let the content be your reason, not some inane word in a subhead..." As someone who has spent a lifetime in teaching youth employment and customer service training, I think Alan really took the wrong approach here and, to some degree, helped make the decision to boycott a lot easier. I would guess that if the word "wacky" was simply "inane", then there would be absolutely no problem in removing it. Nes pas?...But like you said, it is not personal to Alan. But, at the same time, Alan is also an employee who may very well have it in his power to remove the word with some in-house pressure. If he DOESN'T have that power, i didn't get the sense from his response that he cared about finding out. And I see nothing wrong with the Fixers providing that accountability. Not only do I find nothing wrong with it, I fully embrace it. In fact, that is EXACTLY what "COSELLOUT" stands for. Again, nothing personal to Alan, strictly business (the same reason why "wacky" was added in the first place). As customers, we demand a journalistically non-sensationalistic standard and "the Knix Fix" seems to have been that "safe place". And loyalty comes at the cost of maintaining integrity as you have already nicely pointed out. If and when "wacky" is removed then a discussion about a possible return can take place... until then... "No Roger! No Rerun! No Rent!..." -- To your Stern question: With the exception of his Spurs-Suns ruling last year, virtually every decision Stern has ever made during his entire tenure has been to pander to the tide of public opinion. I expect his decision to be informed by the latest Gallup polls. O & B,

The short answer is “amen to Steady!”. The long answer is this:

A very well written response and I do agree with the stance. Now, relative to the daily rags known as “Post” and “News”, the “wacky” sub-heading is rather tame (as are the movies SAW I, II, and III!). So while the cause falls a tad short of the Montgomery Bus boycott, we are still quite right to nip it in the bud. There is simply no question about it that it is pandering. “The fixers” are the customer base which seemed to make our feelings known. And like you, I am a fan of Alan who IMO is a close- second best NY Knicks beat writer after Howard Beck. But I was a little troubled by Alan’s response:

“Threatening to boycott me like I’m Sal’s Famous Pizza? That’s on you. This blog will be here. It’s my house, all are welcome to come and go as they please. Let the content be your reason, not some inane word in a subhead…”

As someone who has spent a lifetime in teaching youth employment and customer service training, I think Alan really took the wrong approach here and, to some degree, helped make the decision to boycott a lot easier. I would guess that if the word “wacky” was simply “inane”, then there would be absolutely no problem in removing it. Nes pas?…But like you said, it is not personal to Alan. But, at the same time, Alan is also an employee who may very well have it in his power to remove the word with some in-house pressure. If he DOESN’T have that power, i didn’t get the sense from his response that he cared about finding out. And I see nothing wrong with the Fixers providing that accountability. Not only do I find nothing wrong with it, I fully embrace it. In fact, that is EXACTLY what “COSELLOUT” stands for.

Again, nothing personal to Alan, strictly business (the same reason why “wacky” was added in the first place). As customers, we demand a journalistically non-sensationalistic standard and “the Knix Fix” seems to have been that “safe place”. And loyalty comes at the cost of maintaining integrity as you have already nicely pointed out. If and when “wacky” is removed then a discussion about a possible return can take place… until then… “No Roger! No Rerun! No Rent!…”

– To your Stern question: With the exception of his Spurs-Suns ruling last year, virtually every decision Stern has ever made during his entire tenure has been to pander to the tide of public opinion. I expect his decision to be informed by the latest Gallup polls.

]]> By: Steady http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-686 Steady Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:19:10 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-686 O&B, You're King of the F'n Hill man. You don't need anyone's approbation to substantiate your stance or validate your personal affliction. If you say you are afflicted, that's it, you are afflicted. If you can't be made whole then you make your call as to what will make you whole. For folks to take an ignorant or arrogant stance on this issue discounts the tumbleweed blog we found and built up from this summer. Though Alan had to d his part, we walked him through it. So be it. We call for respect, and command respect. We're not holding anyone else accountable for their willingness to go along and get along. A person has to stand up for something or fall for for anything. You opted to stand. As BARF once told you in a post, Fuck them. Say your peace and don't apologize. Adopt the mentality of the great city you have come to love. We got your back. KFL O&B,
You’re King of the F’n Hill man. You don’t need anyone’s approbation to substantiate your stance or validate your personal affliction. If you say you are afflicted, that’s it, you are afflicted. If you can’t be made whole then you make your call as to what will make you whole. For folks to take an ignorant or arrogant stance on this issue discounts the tumbleweed blog we found and built up from this summer. Though Alan had to d his part, we walked him through it. So be it. We call for respect, and command respect. We’re not holding anyone else accountable for their willingness to go along and get along. A person has to stand up for something or fall for for anything. You opted to stand. As BARF once told you in a post, Fuck them. Say your peace and don’t apologize. Adopt the mentality of the great city you have come to love. We got your back.

KFL

]]> By: Steady http://www.cosellout.com/2007/10/03/the-book-of-isiah-unraveling-%e2%80%9cthe-biggest-myth-in-sports%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-685 Steady Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:18:19 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=128#comment-685 O&B, The Lil' General (5*) is posturing for the media drawing further distraction/diversion from the NBA's own selacious and sensational mess--the Lone Rogue Referee. The NBA needed the NYK fiasco to absorb the referee sting and the media needs to get back on the task. The media needs to ask this question: What can a referee know as a league secret that could impact the outcome of a game or serve as insider knowledge for bettors prior to tip-off? The score maybe? Just bloggin'. Everyone gets their just due by the end of the day. KFL O&B,
The Lil’ General (5*) is posturing for the media drawing further distraction/diversion from the NBA’s own selacious and sensational mess–the Lone Rogue Referee. The NBA needed the NYK fiasco to absorb the referee sting and the media needs to get back on the task.

The media needs to ask this question: What can a referee know as a league secret that could impact the outcome of a game or serve as insider knowledge for bettors prior to tip-off? The score maybe? Just bloggin’.

Everyone gets their just due by the end of the day.

KFL

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