

"The Isiah Rules" II: Media Gives John Paxson Free Pass
"Isiah Rules" III: Media Mob Calls for David Stern Intervention
Just like the New York Knicks, the Chicago Bulls are off to a slow start this year (3-10). Unlike the Knicks, they were picked to be a top Eastern Conference contender this year. Unlike Isiah Thomas, General manager John Paxson has been held up as a shining example by mainstream media as “the right way” to rebuild a franchise. And unlike Thomas, there has been virtually no media mention about an end of his tenure (local or national). Paxson defenders will tell you that the Bulls have made the playoffs the last three years, they have also recovered from slow starts in the past, and any comparison of Isiah Thomas is ridiculous. They might also say that the notion that Thomas has out-performed John Paxson is blasphemous. And while MSM skewers Thomas with every loss, turnover, and missed defensive assignment, John Paxson is being given a free pass.
What if I told you that Doc Rivers is the best coach in all of basketball? What if I pointed to his “miraculous turnaround” of the Celtics as proof of his newfound coaching genius? And what if I conveniently forgot to mention the names Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen? Would that be dishonest of me? Meet the mainstream sports media. For the last four years Isiah Thomas and John Paxson have been judged WITHOUT CONTEXT. Isiah Thomas and John Paxson were both hired as General Managers in 2003. If "context" doesn’t appeal to you, then you will talk about Paxson-vs.-Isiah won-loss totals during the last three years. If we want a fair assessment of Isiah vs. Paxson, we will have to dig a little bit deeper, a little bit fairer, and a little bit more HONEST than our mainstream sports media. Honesty starts with telling readers about the 2003 squad that Thomas and Paxson inherited. The truth is: Red Auerbach couldn’t have turned to Knicks around in less than four years, and that Redd Foxx (yes, even the dead Redd Foxx!) could have built a contender with the 2003 Bulls.
A) Two Inherited Rosters:
2003 New York Knicks: What if NBA GMs received scores on inherited rosters the way college football coaches do on Division I recruiting classes? Imagine that you took over a NCAA roster that was dead last (not 20th, I’m talking 120th!) in recruiting for the previous four straight years? Meet Isiah Thomas. With hindsight, the Knicks team that Thomas took over looked absolutely nothing like the 2003 Bulls, only the 1999 Bulls that averaged 19 victories for the next six years. Here are the best remaining 4 from Knicks 2003 Roster on the day Isiah took over in 2003 (with CURRENT age):
1) Antonio McDyess (age 33);
2) Kurt Thomas (age 35)
3) Othella Harrington (age 33)
4) Dikembe Mutombo (age 67)
The 2003 Knicks team was AT MINIMUM a five year turnaround project. There exists almost no historical precedence[1] of turning around such an aging roster with no trading assets in a 3 – 4 year period. The inherited roster would outline Isiah’s only achievable goal for the next 4 years: turn the dead bodies into young talent. Through impeccable drafting, and through a multitude of trades exchanging old for young, Isiah has accomplished this goal despite some mistakes.
2003 Chicago Bulls: Now imagine you took over another NCAA job that had top recruiting classes the previous years? Meet John Paxson. Here are the best 4 players from the Bulls opening day roster in 2003 (with CURRENT age):
1) Eddy Curry (age 24)
2) Tyson Chandler (age 25)
3) Jamal Crawford (age 27)
4) Kirk Hinrich[2] (age 26)
With 4 future starters including two young 7-footers, John Paxson walked into an absolute dream job that few GMs could ever mess up. If Paxson opted for the trade route, he had young assets that any team around the league would have interest in giving back value. But even if for the next 4 years John Paxson never made one single trade, made his yearly draft picks (he had the #3 pick after his 1st full season), and sipped margaritas on the beach, he would have gone down as “a great GM”. Even the slightest bit of positive tinkering would help the Bulls achieve its own 4 year goal: Become Title Contenders. Through poor action or inaction, John Paxson has failed to achieve this goal.
B) Two Stages of Roster Rebuilding:
Stage #1 – Get some young talent on Your Roster. It is a very rare occurrence that a new GM does not inherit at least SOME young talent. The 2003 Knicks were a very rare team. Isiah was blessed with Mike Sweetney, Maceij Lampe, and Frank Williams. Stage #1 would start from scratch. By 2007, Thomas added a slew of young players 25 and under along with still young Crawford and Randolph. In a perfect world, a GM can get talent and build chemistry at the very same time, but NOT without any trade assets s from the outset. Thomas had no such luxury. Perhaps Jamal Crawford doesn’t play much defense, but it’s not like Othella Harrington (sent in Crawford trade) was tearing up the floor at both ends.
Stage #2: Build Chemistry. With Curry, Chandler, Crawford, and Hinrich, Paxson had most of “Stage #1” completed before he presided over a single game. Previous GM Jerry Krause – despite mistakes — provided it through the PREVIOUS four year rebuilding stage. And to his credit Paxson also had a great start on the job despite only 23 wins. After his first year he drafted Ben Gordon, the talented Luol Deng (7th pick), and Chris Duhon (2nd round) while also acquiring Andres Nocioni as a free agent. All the pieces fit structurally, and if Paxson never touched this roster again, they would likely be title contenders this year. All they had to do was build chemistry through playing together. The often criticized Curry-Chandler pairing could work precisely because each player’s strengths complemented the other’s weaknesses – if only each were given more time to develop. If Paxson was forced by his organization to trade Curry because of a heart problem (Curry refused to take a DNA test), it would be Paxson’s job to replace that interior offense via other means. Paxson never did.
C) Two Salary Cap Strategies:
Absorb Big Contracts to Acquire Young Talent: Signing big free agents through cap space was not an option for Isiah Thomas. Upon taking over the league’s highest payroll in 2003 Thomas had only one advantage over Paxson and every other GM in the NBA: his owner’s permission to go over the salary cap as much as he likes. Despite media ridicule, Thomas smartly wielded this advantage by absorbing large contracts (see Malik and Jalen Rose) to obtain draft picks that turned guys like Nazr Mohammed and Antonio Davis into young guys like David Lee, Renaldo Balkman, and Mardy Collins. While NBA media analysts love to talk about “getting under the salary cap” as the preferred rebuilding strategy, they are only perpetuating “The Salary Cap Myth.
Get Under the Salary Cap: Going over the cap limit was not an option for John Paxson (see owner Jerry Reinsdorf). Two years ago, Paxson cleared enough cap space to sign Ben Wallace — the one-per-year free agent prize. To create future salary room for Wallace, they traded away Tyson Chandler for PJ Brown’s expiring contract and JR Smith. In reality, Wallace wasn’t free at all to Paxson, but operated more like a trade. The great irony is that in giving up on Chandler too soon, Paxson essentially exchanged a younger version of Ben Wallace for an older declining one. Want more “getting under the cap” irony? Okay, here: When Grant Hill was a prized free agent ready to sign with the Orlando Magic in 2000, it forced a sign-and-trade. Who did the Detroit Pistons receive? A young promising Ben Wallace.
D) Two Trades Between Thomas & Paxson:
Jamal Crawford Trade: Initially this trade was a definite “win-win” for both teams. The Knicks received a talented scorer while giving up almost nothing[3] and the Bulls received the salary cap flexibility they desired[4]. But considering the Bulls subsequently used that salary cap space on Wallace, this move takes on a newfound light. Also, it remains to be seen if #3 pick Gordon ever reaches his all-star promise or becomes just a slightly better replica of Jamal Crawford.
Eddy Curry Trade: Knicks receive Eddy Curry and draft pick (Wilson Chandler) and Bulls receive two draft picks that become Ty Thomas and Joakim Noah[5]. This trade still cannot be fully judged until we see the continued development of all four players involved (note: Curry is still only 24). However, given the current structural flaws of both teams at this moment, it would seem that each team might benefit in the short-term from a retraction.
E) Two Structurally-Flawed Rosters
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Defensively-Challenged: Although very talented, the 2007 Knicks roster is structurally-flawed with an imbalance of “offense-first” players who can’t defend very well. In short, the media will tell you that: Thomas is an utter moron; he knows nothing about team “chemistry”, and "can’t put a team together". They will point to all the shooting guards and laugh about Isiah’s silly Curry-Randolph low post experiment. The “chemistry critics” simply don’t take into account his non-existent trade bait. If Isiah could have nabbed Jermaine O’Neal for Steve Francis and Channing Frye, he would have done so. Zach Randolph was available, so the Knicks HAVE to make that deal. Period. The Knicks who now have young talent, expiring contracts, and a very deep roster are finally in a favorable position to address any final chemistry concerns via one or two more trades.
Offensively-Challenged: Although very talented, the 2007 Bulls roster is structurally-flawed with an imbalance of “defense-first” players who can’t shoot very well. The media will make excuses for Paxson: they won’t insult his basketball IQ; they won’t say that he doesn’t understand “team chemistry”; and he will get credit for taking the “best player available”[6] in the draft. When Thomas collects redundant talent he doesn’t understand basketball, when Paxson does it (see drafting of defense-first Ty Thomas and Joakim Noah in successive years), he is keeping an eye on the future of the franchise. Paxson HAD talent from the outset and after a good first year had all the pieces. Through his subsequent moves Paxson CREATED his current “roster imbalance". The media just assumes that Paxson will make another trade to correct the imbalance, but continually write about the Knicks roster as the final end product.
F) Two Types of “Mistakes”:
The No-Loss Mistake: Isiah Thomas tends to make the GOOD kind of mistake: he rarely gives up substance in return. Everyone and their mother has heard media tales of the acquisitions of Steve Francis, Jerome James, and Jared Jeffries. But do you know what Thomas actually lost to acquire those three?: Trevor Ariza and Demetrius Nichols[7]. That’s right, two second round picks and a lot of money that is only James Dolan’s problem. Despite winning landslide exchanges that resulted in the acquisitions of at least 5 young players, it looks like Thomas has thus far only clearly been on the wrong side of one exchange (probably the Marbury trade unless he plays the next two years like last night).
The Franchise-Changing Mistake: Although hailed at the time by some sports writers as the Bulls final championship piece, the Ben Wallace signing and subsequent related trade of Tyson Chandler is the kind of error that may have cost the Bulls a legitimate championship run for years to come. Wallace, whose skills are in rapid decline, will be retired in a few years, and Chandler will be one of a handful of frontline defensive stoppers in all of basketball. The day Paxson made this move was the day he decided that the Bulls would try to WIN NOW. However, this acquisition began a string of lesser mistakes that blatantly contradicted that vision. They are:
· Giving JR Smith Away: JR Smith was received from the Hornets in the Chandler trade. He was immediately traded away to Denver for 2nd round draft picks. JR Smith might be a coaching handful, but there is one thing that the man can do very well that the Bulls can’t: score two points.
· Not Replacing Curry’s Offense: When Curry was traded away, so was the Bulls only source of low post offense. Paxson then loaded up on more defense-first players while not replacing the offense he traded away. With the 2nd pick in the 2006 draft, he opted to do a draft day trade for defensive Ty Thomas instead of select interior scorer Lamarcus Aldridge. The next year he selected defensive Joakim Noah instead of use the pick in part of a trade for low-post scoring.
· Not Trading for a Frontline Stud: The Bulls had as many trade chips as anybody in the entire NBA. Some had reported that Gasol could have been had for PJ Brown’s expiring contract, Luol Deng, and Ben Gordon[8]. Paxson said “no” because of Deng’s upside. Of course, that logic would be fine if he hadn’t signed Wallace and kept Chandler. The only reason to pass on Gasol is if you believe you have a better shot at Kevin Garnett – a trade that never materialized. In fact, Wallace’s window is closing faster than John Paxson’s ability to engineer ANY trade that makes Big Ben relevant. By the time Deng peaks, Wallace will be through.
· Did Paxson Hold his Cards Too Long? Besides Deng, every single Bull’s trade stock seems to be lowering in 2007. PJ Brown’s expiring contract has, well, expired. While the Bulls have recovered from slow starts in recent years, this team just looks different. This year’s team is no lock for the playoffs like previous years. And if they do make the playoffs, they simply can’t contend for a championship without frontline scoring. While the difference squarely starts with the declining Wallace, it also has something to do with the somewhat slow rate of improvement of Gordon, Hinrich, and Thomas. But in reality, the Bulls are most likely not fighting for a championship right now only because of The War in John Paxson’s Mind.
[1] The very rare exception is to gain that lucky #1 draft pick during one of those special years where there is a player who can turn around a franchise all by themselves (see Lew Alcindor going to the Bucks).
[2] Paxson was hired before the 2003 draft and inherited the #7 pick. He used the pick to select Kirk Hinrich. Point guard TJ Ford was also on the board and selected with the very next pick. In other words, any GM looking for a point guard would have picked one of these two individuals. Both are equally competent point guards.
[3] The Knicks gave up an aging Dikembe Mutombo, Frank Williams, and Othella Harrington.
[4] The Bulls concern was to include Jerome Williams contract in the deal.
[5] Bulls also received other players, none of any consequence.
[6] Stephen A. Smith was the one rare exception who questioned the Bulls draft day pick of Joakim Noah as redundant. Overall it was met with praise.
[7] Demetrius Nichols represented this past year’s second round pick (#53) who was cut at the end of training camp in favor of Jerome James roster spot.
[8] Note: There is some ambiguity here on this trade offer as there are conflicting media reports about whether the Grizzlies were also asking for Ty Thomas in this deal along with Brown, Deng, and Gordon. If this report including Ty Thomas were true, it would be foolish to trade for Gasol.
Coming out swinging I see. Happy Holidays to me – can’t wait to read this bad boy!!
Compelling stuff. I didn’t realize the Bulls had JR Smith. The Bulls are an interesting team. They’re long, but they’re not strong. They’re a contender to finish in the top 3-4 teams in the East and if they find themselves they can compete for the Conference title.
Do you know if Wallace is injured or going through some sort of personal issue? The Bulls certainly pissed away the Chandler deal, but if Ben resumes his old form, he makes things alot easier for that entire team.
Just an aside: Jamal Crawford has no urgency about ball security. At the end of the Utah game, he couldn’t have looked more disinterested to have the ball in his hands at crunch time. After a few lackadaisical dribbles in the backcourt, he proceeded to palm the ball about 65 times in front of the ref, then make a lazy ONE HANDED flip pass that was deflected.
I had to turn the station. I thought the Tommy Maddox School for Perpetual Turnovers was closed to ALL HOOPERS. Crawford wants his own wing.
Modi,
Good insight. Not only did Chandler/Wallace exchange young for old, it also decreased the Bulls length.
They are undersized at every position on the floor. The Curry/Chandler ramifications have made Paxson “Gun-shy”. He knows another bad trade will cause people to question his managerial ability.
Modi if you have a chance compare Mullin. Until Don Nelson arrive, Mullin was a train -wreck, bad signings, bad drafts, etc
T3, Wallace’s production has decreased in each of the last 5 years. He is simply not that guy who was leading Detroit to a chanpionship. My guess is that this is his last real quality year. In other words, if the Bulls can’t win a title this year, they wasted the Wallace window. At best, he is also ok next year, but that’s it.
Yeah, Jamal has a palming problem, but he IS normally quite clutch at the end of games.
Statesman, yeah, I had a good laugh about the Mullin rumor. Wouldn’t he take a beating for signing the OTHER Jerome James to… Adonal Foyle to a midlevel exception.
Great stuff as always. I’ve been saying this for the longest time. It’s ridiculous reading the paper and have the scribes rag on Isiah for his moves. One of the papers had all of Isiah’s recent moves and mentioned that he got “draft picks” without mentioning who those picks were. As if Scott Layden drafted those guys or Isiah bought them from the African guy who sells bootleg DVD’s on 34th street. Before Isiah we hadn’t drafted an actual professional basketball player since Rod Strickland in 1999. I remember how crappy the Knicks were before Isiah (It makes me laugh how soon people forget)and I could not watch a game at all. Now I can watch again (when they play hard of course) and we will be in line to add another piece very soon.
Then they mention possible replacements for Isiah; like Jerry West did anything in Memphis in his 5 years there or Chris Mullin is gonna bring the Knicks a ring. Please.
Modi,
Another barn-burner. Thank you for the provocative reflection.
On a whole ‘nother level, we have to give credence to the notion “it takes money to make money”. You have sufficiently debunked the salary cap myth as it relates to big market teams like NY, Chicago and LA, etc.; they can sustain the luxury tax. In another expose, we discussed the value of the NYK and the Dallas Mavericks franchises as top of the heap considering the owners also own the arenas where the teams play. Memo to Seattle and Charlotte: the winning equation in the NBA is to own the team AND the venue including the WNBA affiliate or even the NBDL affiliate if you could. The business model involves keeping the seats filled throughout the year. When you’re able to do so, then the GM can be afforded the necessary time (& budget) to tinker with rosters and build a winning culture for your team. I submit that IT was in the perfect storm considering that he walked in to a scrap heap of recyclable pieces when he came into the job in 2003.
On the same theme of “it takes money to make money”, consider the fact that teams that never had max’d players on their rosters (luxury or no luxury tax) can rarely add them through trade or FA acquisition. The CBA construct does not permit it. For all good intents and purposes, if the NYK never had a $100 million player (a la AH20) it would be difficult to imagine that they can one day attract and fill a salary at that level. If a team has never had a max’d player, that team is relagated to maneuver with the MLE or packaged deals (multi-player/-team transactions) to make the math work.
I imagine that as the story evolves Modi, you will show a graphic depiction of the salary obligations in Chicago compared to those in NY. After Stephon and Zach, you have the larger expiring with Malik and a short-time span remaining on James, QRich and Jamal. And then you have a bonanza of up-and-coming talent at a discount. Chicago on the other hand may end up losing the top talents if it does not pay Marbury/Zach-type dollars. As IT pares down to go after top talents like an LBJ, a Brand, a Josh Smith or even a Kobe, Chicago will be fighting to just keep its current team intact. Of course, all the fantasy GM speculations here will be for naught if a trade is made by the 2008 deadline. Still, if a team had never paid $20 million/year to one player, it is difficult (if not highly unlikely) to sign one at that clip. It just does not add up.
Can’t wait to read the rest of the series.
You should challenge that scumbag Vescey to a debate. I called him a scumbag because that’s what he is – I don’t even think he’d consider it an insult…it’s more a statement of fact about a grimy guy who prides himself on self-aggrandizing hyperbole and character assassination. Did I miss anything?
Must so many of “our” references to sub-standard quality invoke Africans? With all the poor workmanship in construction, fashion and so many other fields, must be jump on the back of the poor African street vendor to illustrate our small points about hypocrisy? Can we change our paradigms or does the African always have to be second rate while Europeans and their progeny manage those color toilet paper machines known as the New York Post, New York Daily News and the New York Times. Can we not wipe our collective asses with disdain for mediocrity from non-African sources? Let’s get it together people…spread a little love for the little guy trying to make a buck.
Is this premise built on the the Bulls awful start? The reason people (‘MEDIA!’) claim Paxson’s methods work as opposed to Thomas’ is that the Bulls are a good team and the Knicks are a bad one.
And you’re wrong about bad signings only hurting James Dolan’s wallet. Flexibility isn’t only about getting under the cap, having long-term committments to overpaid and unerperforming players hurts in trades. Jerome James doesn’t only cost a roster spot. And a Curry-Randolph $25m frontcourt means David Lee gets put on the bench.
Great Stuff MODI
IMHO this stuff is great but it takes a while to read through it all and understandably so. My suggestion is to find a way to condense without loosing the substance and getting it out there by flooding all the various sports media.
Once again GREAT STUFF!!!
Matt, the awful start is just part of the premise. Expectations are much higher for the Bulls so the poor start should be a great concern, AND get media attention. I know the Bulls have survived poor starts in the past but this is the time for the Bulls to be contending for a title. Period. Yes, the Bulls are a good team, but I would submit to you that you or I could have become a Bulls GM in 2003 and had a very good team in a couple of years. Paxson was handed a gift. I would also submit to you that 99 of 100 GMs would not have had the Knicks in the playoffs the last couple of years considering the Knicks 2003 roster which resembled the 1999 Bulls. History demonstrates that. The media should educate readers about these facts.
I have my own issues with the Curry-Randolph experiment. I love when ONE of them is on the court but not both. I agree that D-Lee should get more minutes and have issues with Isiah’s substituion patterns (start renaldo Balkman over Q). However, I like the trade because it also gives them more options for future trades. One of the two can be traded (Curry’s 9M contract is more tradeable) with young players for a possible frontline stud who can play D. This is NOT the final Knicks roster anymore that the Bulls have their final roster.
Jazz, point well taken. I struggle with that issue all the time.
Matt,
The bulls are not a good team. They are mainly a jump-shooting team. It is only becoming apparent now because their shots are not going through. They are certainly not better than the Celts, Magic, Detroit, Toronto, Miami, the Knicks, even the Pacers, the Nets, etc. They have some good defenders. That’s it.
It would be interesting how they deal with contract extensions for Gordon and Deng. They will probably end up losing one or both. The best players on the team now are Deng, Gordon and Joe Smith. Go figure
Excellent work, Modi.
Matt: The Bulls are not a legit contender, despite the media’s preseason belief that they are. They only advanced out of the 1st round for the first time last year, and really got stomped (it was 3-0 in a blink of the eye) by a far superior Pistons team. The same team that then got stomped by the Cavs. In other words: the Bulls are the third-best team in their division. Championship contender? Hardly.
To add to Temple3 first comment: I think Ben Wallace does have a nagging injury (ankle?) that hasn’t been able to heal properly, because he’s been playing. I think he’ll get better as the season goes on, if he gets a chance to rest that ankle or whatever. He’s too good a rebounder to be doing this poorly.
And finally, my biggest beef with the Bulls and the Curry situation: The Bulls and John Paxson get a free pass for attempting to do something very illegal (real US law, not NBA law) in forcing a DNA test upon Curry. That’s a privacy right violation that courts have ruled against, and Congress has tried to pass legislation to prevent. DNA testing for employment? That’s a big can of worms that they tried to open, and no one in the sports media really did a good job of speaking out against what the Bulls organization was trying to pull….
I’m going to be building an online community for bloggers to go over the CREDENTIALS of media folks. By and large, I’ve found that sports bloggers (part-timers mostly) appear to have much deeper and more varied academic backgrounds than sportswriters. It is no wonder that there is recurring frustration with two aspects of MSM coverage: blatant corporate pandering based on symbiotic relationships and piss poor investigative work/writing on basic issues.
Face it people, these writers are largely nothing more than the guys you’ve argued circles around in bars for years. They have access and not much else. They don’t have the capacity to introduce knowledge from other fields like law or finance or history or urban policy or cultural anthropology. They simply lack the intellectual armor or the humility to do the type of writing that most of us would be inclined to respect.
I suspect once folks see that “dirty laundry list” of fifth-rate colleges and fifth-rate academic majors, readers will finally do one of two things: cease seeking wisdom from fools OR formalize pressure on sports editors to elevate the level of their product. In either case, the readers win.
By the way, the academic backgrounds don’t necessarily mean that bloggers are “smarter.” I simply find that bloggers (especially those like MODI) bring other life/academic experiences to bear on their work. This level of analysis does not happen in ANY “major” sports publication.
They have the money, the time, the space, the audience – but they don’t have the writers or the stomach for this type of serious grind. It would change their business paradigm and it would change the “good old boy network” of mediocre bastards watching games for free. And that’s not sexy.
Temple3… I think you are on to something there. I agree with you on this on….
I think other reasons are pure mischief and job security. The print media have been experiencing a slow down in revenue, This means some of these sports writers face imminent job-losses. The only way to justify their longevity is being relevant and one way to do it is through conjecture.
Now, imagine one of the media friendly types, Kiki, etc. took over the Knicks, it would assure these guys constant access to inside information (and make them relevant,) something they surely don’t get these days. So they have really strong motives not to project any positives on Isiah’s work.
SML, I share your sentiment on the Curry heart situation. I wonder if this was paxson’s decision or Reinsdorf’s
Jazz, it amazes me that Kiki’s name comes up and this is the guy who sent THREE first rounders for Kenyon Martin AND drafted “Skita” (can’t spell his name) with the 3rd overall pick. This AMAZES me that he is held in high regard.
Temple, i don’t know if I really subscribe to the “education theory”. I don’t know if it is a matter of education or insight. The bottom line is that there are many insightful writers who simply dumb their shit down. They care about selling papers. That is their job. Do you think a Lupica or Whitlock rose to fame by believing half the shit that they write? (Actually Lupica was good 25 years ago) they have controversial formulas that sell papers or website clicks and they get paid for their hackery. They are hustlers plain and simple. Anne Coulters of the sporting scene. The reason we always get the “black villain” flavor of the week is because that sells. Period.
As much as i appreciate your words, i don’t know if my writing, your writing, and other bloggers concerned with “fairness” would move any papers. people like the “good vs. evil” paradigm and don’t really want nuance, even if it is the truth. People like their life simple and Lupica as a master at oversimplification.
Wow!
Sum serious discourse be going down here. STOP, that was some great knowledge you dropped on the DNA angle. I missed that COMPLETELY.
T3, I see your points and tend to side with you (ever since you went to shave your head). I was concerned, however, that someone would read educated elitism in OUR stance. I’m not sure what they’re teaching the Journalism majors anymore. Time was when the Fundamentals (100-200s) were more robust and really “disciplined” the student. Today, it seems like only advanced degrees provide that “discipline” to weigh, counter-correct, add value, etc. I see your point about hacks dumbing down their shit Modi but c’mon. We’re talking JOURNALISM and the influence that MEDIA wields. This dilemma may be more an indictment on our educational system and our declining moral fiber. That topic is for another thread/blog (I suppose).
And Modi, I can understand the frustration that you confirmed to Jazz. For starters, we all come here and submit “minis”. You’re swamped with your day job so you give us the very best of what you’ve got and THANK YOU. You have the makings for chapters and sections in books but not the book itself I suppose. Even with that said Jazz, when you read the other MSM, pay attention to the topics and words as they are plagiarized from COSELLOUT. Maybe that is a small retribution. Still, this site is not being maintained with retribution and the ticketmaster does not accept it online when trying to get tickets to the games
Thanks Steady. I was having this discussion the other day with a friend about how to get all the facts in while also making it digestable. Its a tough balancing act, ESPECIALLY when taking an unpopular stance. For some of the longer pieces, I might start off with a one paragraph summary for “the glancing crowd”.
I came across this on Ballhype as I write about the Bulls and was checking out related articles.
Although, as a Bulls fan, I can’t agree with everything you wrote and don’t have time, or the energy, to go into the details of all the work of John Paxson….I can agree that this was a very compelling article. Nice work.
Modi,
I don’t have the same optimism you do over dealing either Curry or Randolph.
Curry has a more manageable salary, but it is still substantial for a one-dimensional player. And perhaps the biggest (only?) point about his tradeability is that his contract is uninsured, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Dolan’s the only one willing to take on such a risk. He likely was the only one the first time Curry was available.
And Randolph’s trade value isn’t as much of a mystery, as he was just traded after a very good (statistical) season in Portland. All that got Portland was a bought-out Steve Francis and some other spare parts like Frye. If he keeps a high level of play his contract gets shorter and less of a pain, but playing on a bad team rarely helps value.
A lot of it goes to the idea that Dolan’s pockets make cap disasters irrelevant. For him, maybe. But nearly every other owner is a lot more cautious, so mistakes are harder to pass on.
Thanks Jack. Much appreciated. Agreement is not necessary from my point of view. Helping to provide a more balanced discussion is just as important a goal.
Matt, good point about the uninsured part about Curry’s salary. I hadn’t considered that. But 9M still seems like a great deal IF he can be paired with a defensive shot-blocking sidekick. We agree that randolp’s salary is less tradeable. But because of randolph the loss of Curry would be far less of a hit than it would have been last year.
Hey Modi have you seen this
http://www.observer.com/2007/life-knicks-hell?page=0%2C0
it might actually explain some of the negative treatment Isaih and Knicks receive in the press. Sounds like the beat writers have an axe to grind.
Good post Jones. No wonder frank isola acts like a lil girl when talking about the Knicks. For once I have to say I am glad that the knicks are doing that. The mainstream media are always putting folks in check. I’m glad someone is putting their butt in check for once.
now the big bully is acting like a cry babby.
Jones, thanks! Here is some more on it: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-28-327/Garden-Variety-Psycho.html I’ve also read Isola complaining on his own blog, and Irigin is most definitely right about the bully becoming the baby.
Yes, on one hand it might explain some of the reason why they are pissed off but on the other hand, I was reading the Daily’s everyday when they were WINNING during the Patrick Ewing era and the writers, including Isola, treated them like shit. Want some perspective: the New York Post wrote the unforgiveable “Good Riddance” the day Patrick Ewing got traded. After all that man gave to the Knicks, a warrior who played with pain all the time. These guys will trade in decency at any time if it sells one more copy.
If James Dolan has a back off media policy, it is for damn good reason. They are vultures ONLY concerned about creating villains to sell papers. If I’m James Dolan I would tell guys like Isola and Vaccarro to go fuck themselves. They have some serious balls to complain considering the columns they write. The best thing I could say about isola is that Lupica and Mitch lawrence do their best to make him seem “fair and balanced”. Listen Jones, if I invite you over to my house for dinner and you spit on my food, piss on my rug, and shit on my couch should I have an obliged to happily pass you the potatoes? How arrogant is it for a reporter to believe that they can write hack pieces and be expected to be treated nice afterwards?
My only regret is that there are some fair writers like the NY Times Howard Beck and Newsday’s Alan Hahn who get caught in the web as a result. However, I would argue that their dissappointment should not be with James Dolan or Isiah, but rather their colleagues over at the Daily news and the NY Post. In the True Hoop article Alan Hahn says that Isola really does love the Knicks. That tells me that Hahn has some really fucked up friends or never actually read an Isola column… perhaps Hahn should start with this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/knicks/2007/11/its-isiahs-hoax-and-were-all-v.html
Modi,
Thank you for providing the link on Knick Defense. It is difficult to get here because there is so much to read and so little time, but your material should be required reading and spread around more. I encourage us all to be Johnny Appleseeds and sprinkle a little MODI around the blogosphere and share this link wherever you can.
Very fine analysis. Very fine.