Comments on: Mitchell Report: First Impressions http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/ Sports Media Bias Exposed Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:58:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: MODI http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2536 MODI Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:58:29 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2536 Okay, Temple, maybe I'm guilty in engaging in hyperbole. I doubt that Boswell actually used the word "satan" to describe Bonds. My greater point is that he was taking about the shit in 1988 and while he should still be challenged everytime he gets any facts wrong or is not fair across the board, he is basically the only media "steroids purist" who did not await to junp on the bandwagon when it became popular. Okay, Temple, maybe I’m guilty in engaging in hyperbole. I doubt that Boswell actually used the word “satan” to describe Bonds. My greater point is that he was taking about the shit in 1988 and while he should still be challenged everytime he gets any facts wrong or is not fair across the board, he is basically the only media “steroids purist” who did not await to junp on the bandwagon when it became popular.

]]> By: Hawk http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2532 Hawk Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:10:40 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2532 I only mentioned Knoblauch because someone wondered if his yips came from steroids. I only mentioned Knoblauch because someone wondered if his yips came from steroids.

]]> By: Temple3 http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2530 Temple3 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:29:41 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2530 You're hilarious. Thanks. It's not an area of concern, but since you mentioned Knobby in a wholly unsolicited manner, I felt free to ask. Let's move on. You’re hilarious. Thanks. It’s not an area of concern, but since you mentioned Knobby in a wholly unsolicited manner, I felt free to ask. Let’s move on.

]]> By: Hawk http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2529 Hawk Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:24:52 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2529 My info is admittedly hearsay and I would not run it if I were an editor of a newspaper or magazine. It is effectively a rumor although I do believe my colleague. As to Temple3, I have no idea if Piazza is gay or not, nor do I care, but according to my colleague, he was not THAT Delivery Man. My info is admittedly hearsay and I would not run it if I were an editor of a newspaper or magazine. It is effectively a rumor although I do believe my colleague.

As to Temple3, I have no idea if Piazza is gay or not, nor do I care, but according to my colleague, he was not THAT Delivery Man.

]]> By: Temple3 http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2524 Temple3 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:55:00 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2524 So, Hawk, are you saying Mikey Pizza's not really A Delivery Man or just not THAT Delivery Man? So, Hawk, are you saying Mikey Pizza’s not really A Delivery Man or just not THAT Delivery Man?

]]> By: Temple3 http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2523 Temple3 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:50:21 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2523 With all due respect: des, even though I disagree with his personal position on steroids, Thomas Boswell is all right with me. He can moralize all day, all night, and call even call Bonds satan if he wants to. He has earned that right. He is the only truly sincere “purist” out there. That's some bs, right there. While I maintain that this is not the time for a reasoned or thoughtful convo on 'roids, Boswell has not earned that right because the research does not support his opinion - and by the media's own assessments, Bonds is not the type of athlete who would cause kids to run out and 'roid. It would be a more popular athlete (probably one that lesser athletic talents would identify with) like a Tedy Bruschi or someone along those lines. It would be a "gritty" guy - a "hard-working" guy - a "grinder." Someone like Lenny Dykstra? Yeah, like Dykstra. Folks don't get to call Barry "Satan" or anything else based on this scenario. I'm not buying. The real damage is not done by guys who are perceived as super-athletic -- whose feats are incomparable and even mystical. It's the guy who is accessible that everyone can relate to - the Lenny D's of the world that do the greatest harm...and the media continues to give those cats a pass. Paul Byrd, Rick Ankiel, etc. Hard-working, good fellas trying to stay in the bigs....blah, blah, blah. Fuck Boswell too. With all due respect:

des, even though I disagree with his personal position on steroids, Thomas Boswell is all right with me. He can moralize all day, all night, and call even call Bonds satan if he wants to. He has earned that right. He is the only truly sincere “purist” out there.

That’s some bs, right there. While I maintain that this is not the time for a reasoned or thoughtful convo on ‘roids, Boswell has not earned that right because the research does not support his opinion – and by the media’s own assessments, Bonds is not the type of athlete who would cause kids to run out and ‘roid. It would be a more popular athlete (probably one that lesser athletic talents would identify with) like a Tedy Bruschi or someone along those lines. It would be a “gritty” guy – a “hard-working” guy – a “grinder.” Someone like Lenny Dykstra? Yeah, like Dykstra.

Folks don’t get to call Barry “Satan” or anything else based on this scenario. I’m not buying. The real damage is not done by guys who are perceived as super-athletic — whose feats are incomparable and even mystical. It’s the guy who is accessible that everyone can relate to – the Lenny D’s of the world that do the greatest harm…and the media continues to give those cats a pass.

Paul Byrd, Rick Ankiel, etc. Hard-working, good fellas trying to stay in the bigs….blah, blah, blah.

Fuck Boswell too.

]]> By: Temple3 http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2522 Temple3 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:44:21 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2522 Bob Nightengale of TSN is the other writer who brought it up. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n30_v219/ai_17320724 I centered much of my two pieces on Bonds/steriods around his article. It featured telling comments from Selig, the Padres GM and several others. And once again, Telflon Tony is getting a pass in the media. Can't they focus on the Rocket and the Pharmacist at the same time. Tony's all for a little drink or a little needle as long as it pads the bottom line. Bob Nightengale of TSN is the other writer who brought it up.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n30_v219/ai_17320724

I centered much of my two pieces on Bonds/steriods around his article. It featured telling comments from Selig, the Padres GM and several others.

And once again, Telflon Tony is getting a pass in the media. Can’t they focus on the Rocket and the Pharmacist at the same time. Tony’s all for a little drink or a little needle as long as it pads the bottom line.

]]> By: MODI http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2519 MODI Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:15:30 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2519 Hawk, you realize that you are dropping quite the bombshell. But unlike the Mitchell report, I do not have enough corroborating sources to run with the story! Hawk, you realize that you are dropping quite the bombshell. But unlike the Mitchell report, I do not have enough corroborating sources to run with the story!

]]> By: Hawk http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2518 Hawk Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:08:44 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2518 The Yankees did not lose in 2001 because of Knoblauch, but my colleague worked directly for George for eight years to put himself through college and law school. So, I believe him about Knoblauch. I do find it sad that because the sports world is SOOO homophobic that a quality player like Knoblauch had his career shortened because he could not handle it emotionally. The Yankees did not lose in 2001 because of Knoblauch, but my colleague worked directly for George for eight years to put himself through college and law school. So, I believe him about Knoblauch. I do find it sad that because the sports world is SOOO homophobic that a quality player like Knoblauch had his career shortened because he could not handle it emotionally.

]]> By: MODI http://www.cosellout.com/2007/12/14/mitchell-report-first-impressions/comment-page-1/#comment-2517 MODI Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:35:57 +0000 http://www.cosellout.com/?p=187#comment-2517 Hawk, the freshest posts address all of Stark's recent articles on the Mitchell report including the last one you mention. -- Piazza, Dibble, and Nomar would be the surefire three that I take from your list. There are at least a couple hundred not on the list. All that means is that they weren't able to subpaeona their trainers -- Now Hawk, I have never heard this Knoblauch story before, but it is certainly an interesting theory!!! Are you suggesting that our oppressive society possibly cost the Yankees a World Series? Hawk, the freshest posts address all of Stark’s recent articles on the Mitchell report including the last one you mention.

– Piazza, Dibble, and Nomar would be the surefire three that I take from your list. There are at least a couple hundred not on the list. All that means is that they weren’t able to subpaeona their trainers

– Now Hawk, I have never heard this Knoblauch story before, but it is certainly an interesting theory!!! Are you suggesting that our oppressive society possibly cost the Yankees a World Series?

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