Comments on: 3 Strikes and Youâ€™re Out! Jayson in Stark Denial on Roger Clemens & Andy Pettitte

By: lisalee

lisalee — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:11:43 +0000

FINALLY!! A message board where people call it like it is! and after reading all the comments all I can say is couldn’t have said it better!

By: allen

allen — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:49:01 +0000

Modi and Statesman

don’t hold your breath

By: MODI

MODI — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:53:57 +0000

Ro, while you are correct, you can also tell your colleagues how much Clemens is a prick. When he wasn’t throwing balls and splintered bats at people he was requesting special team privileges and faking retirement every year until he reached a higher bidder.

statesman, I too am eagerly awaiting Bob Costas…

By: STATESMAN

STATESMAN — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:19:59 +0000

Modi,
The Black Athlete is attacked as an individual,and treated as
guilty in the press based on speculation and/or extrapolation
by the media. The articles generally implies that this individual is prone to cheat due to his nature. It is the equivalent of “Racial Profiling”. While the “White Athlete”, is defended or covered in a manner as if unbeknownst to him he was given the PED, because he is honorable.

I am still waiting for Bob Costas to attack Roger Clemens and insist that the HOF put an asterik next to his achievements.
He will mock Clemens’ achievements after Boston, and ridicule Roger’s response

By: Ro

Ro — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:06:33 +0000

I had a conversation about this with some co-workers of mine. I said I hope the go after Clemens and the rest with the same vigor as Bonds. But the almost complete consensus was ‘But Bonds is a prick’. I kinda just chuckled and responded ‘and? that has nothing to do with anything’. I find it so obviously hilarious that so many have bought into this idea that Bonds is a bad guy, while people completely give a pass to another star athlete who is in actually a bit of a worse predicament, but he’s viewed as ok.. oh and he just happens to be a white dude. I think I’m going to start grouping white players together so people can hear how ridiculous sounds.. ‘See, Clemens is yet ANOTHER example of how caucasians are destroying the game!’. I think that would be a bit of a conversation starter…

By: MODI

MODI — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:52:12 +0000

Temple, yes, I feel you. I generally err on benefit of the doubt. Sometimes it is a strength, other times it is a character flaw.

The length that Starks will go to at least pertially absolve these other guys is crazy. A laboratory in “cognitive dissonance theory”. Kurkijian’s video was particulary mindboggling. A grown ass man is like wellAndy said it, so it must be true.

Yes, SML, this Mitchell report is a media study of white privilege.

By: des

des — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:45:11 +0000

First off, I’m so tired of the term, ” race card “. It was a media created term used when the late Johnnie Cochran kept O.J. out of prison, and it has been used every time a minority points out obvious forms of racism, such as the current cases. The term is used to cover up the biases some members of the MSWSM have toward black players who don’t do the grateful knee-grow shuffle.

But what really bothers me about Jayson Stark, Tim Kurkjian, Ken Rosenthal, etc., is the fact they all knew what was going on in baseball from the time they began their careers to the present. And for them to pick and choose whom they dole out mercy (Clemens and Pettite) or condemnation (you-know-who and soon, Miguel Tejada)is the most obscene part of this whole thing.

By: Peaceman

Peaceman — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:41:19 +0000

MODI,

Keep exposing the truth! There trying to
“White Wash” the White Heros!

By: stopmikelupica

stopmikelupica — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:25:57 +0000

Temple3 was right. I brought into the Ankiel article, too. I admit I was fooled by Starks, and that’s why I’m glad D-Wil and Modi are putting Starks on blast!

This whole thing illustrates the problem with race in America; blacks will never get the benefit of the doubt from white America, and will always be treated as a “group” situation, not on an individual case by case basis.

For example, here you have in today’s paper one random person quoted as saying, about Pettite: “He knows why he did it, and I’m sure his reasons are good.”

That sums up the real difference between Bonds and guys like Pettite and Clemens right there. The average white fan (including those in the media) assumes the best with guys like Pettite, or Jeter (if he was named), or Schilling (who should have been named!), or Nolan Ryan (come on… who taught Clemens to use steroids?). But those very same fans assume the worst allegations against Bonds are “fact”, and give him no benefit of the doubt….

By: Temple3

Temple3 — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:39:02 +0000

MODI:

I said back then that Stark’s Ankiel article was bullshit. Do you feel me now? He’s a buster.