
"We probably have the wrong guys starting and we’ll look to change our lineup
and try to get some more energy and defensive guys in the lineup".
– Isiah Thomas after today’s loss to the Los Angeles Lakers
Dear Mr. Thomas,
Turning Point? Today the Knicks came back from 25 points to almost upend the Lakers. Why? For one, in the second half, you had FINALLY changed the starting line-up. Knick fans have been screaming for this change since the second week! Bottom line: this roster, although structurally flawed, has the talent to compete. However, by our estimation (see 7 Reasons to Blame COACH Isiah) you have turned in the worst coaching performance this side of Larry Brown’s 42 line-ups. However, there no more time for continued analysis or extended discussion – just solutions. The media vultures are at the door and they are breathing fire. …Finally, the following suggestions do not come with condescension, just desparation. While you will forget more about basketball than I will ever know, we all know what 8-19 means. If you are serious about making changes before the Orlando game here are our…
10 Suggestions:
1) This team deserves to be coached properly. As you know, the current coaching performance has been unnacceptable. Barring a sudden turnaround in the next couple of weeks, we suggest that you give up your coaching duties and let a guy like Herb Williams or Jeff Van Gundy take over the reigns.
2) Today you started David Lee in the second half today. Please make this adjustment permanent while making Curry a "super-sub". As for Eddy’s ego, tell him that "if Manu Ginobli can come off the bench, then anyone can". Then tell him bedtime stories about hall-of-famer Kevin McHale coming off the pine to win championships. (Note: if Curry stays in line-up, then Zach goes to bench)
3) Admit that Zach and Eddy’s experiment has failed. We came. We watched. The results are in. The critics were right. I will eat my humble pie and so should you. Zach has stunted Eddy’s development. Each player is far more valuable to the team when they are the only low post player on the floor. When together the interior and perimeter defense are both atrocious while their offensive skills are duplicative. Any offensive possession where Eddy Curry is not the main low post option = a wasted defensive possession where he is a liability. Period. We cannot afford that trade-off. Go with the hot hand that night. Limit their "together minutes" to under 10 a game, if not eliminating them altogether.
4) Start Jared Jeffries at the 3 for defense and give him a direct order not to shoot the ball unless it is a dunk – but only wide open dunks of course… with two hands… Such a move might prevent Mike Dunleavy and Gerald Wallace from playing like Hall-of-Famers when they play the Knicks… not to mention containing all-stars like KG, Bosh, and Lebron (who Jeffries played quite well with the Wizards). If Jeffries fails, give Renaldo a shot at this spot.
5) Sit Q down (related to #3). Quentin richardson is only shooting 32% and is not the same player as last year due to his back surgery and shoulder injury. If he gets his touch back consider more minutes from him.
7) Settle Point Guard Decision: There are only two possible players on the Knicks capable of running the point on any long-term basis, and seeing if Jamal or Nate can take their man off the dribble does not qualify. If Marbury comes back solid from bereavement, then fine. If not, then a commitment must be made to develop Mardy Collins despite miscues that will follow. He showed promise at the end of last year when running the offense.
Jamal off the Bench: When Marbury returns, Jamal should probably come off the bench while Fred Jones moves to the 2 for defense. Marbury and Crawford together spell no perimeter D. Marbury and Zach get into offensive flow early, and Jamal becomes spark plug off the bench that also maximizes the Crawford-Curry chemistry. Should it turn out that defensive-minded Collins runs the point, then Crawford’s offense in the starting unit will then be needed. (Note: this is the suggestion that we are most skeptical about — maybe we feel it out a bit)
10) Make all these changes for the next game: By making wholesale line-up changes before Wednesday, less egos will be bruised as benchings will be softened by the company they keep.
Plan A:
– Stephon Marbury (develop Collins if Marbury is unavailable)
– David Lee
– Zach Randolph
Bench: Curry, Crawford, Balkman, Nate, Q
Pros: Jones and Jeffries offer major upgrade in perimeter D; Curry & Crawford connection in 2nd unit; Randolph/Lee have windshield wiping party
Cons: May be too little offense depending on what Jones brings. If so, then maybe Q at the 2.
Plan B:
– Marbury
– Crawford
– Jeffries
– Lee
– Curry
Bench: Randolph, Jones, Balkman, Nate, Q
Pros: Instant built in chemistry from last year as most of this line-up played together before injuries; Curry gets early touches; Marbury gets into early flow.
Cons: Marbury & Crawford provide poor perimeter D as a tandem; Will Randolph accept a back-up role?
With only a handful of others that can be found in the universe (see Knicks Defense), we do not believe that you and Mr. Dolan are the second coming of Enron. We clearly understand the implications of your inherited roster, inherited salary cap situation, and powder keg conditions in NYC. We have just as much disdain for vicious and spiteful New York tabloid media as you. We have contempt for anyone who relentlessly mocks you, but has little to say about men named McHale or Mangini. We do not support any other person who calls themselves a Knick fan who: 1) throws their Knicks jersey on the Boston Celtics floor; 2) holds up nasty signs so that they can get their 15 minutes of fame. or 3) holds protests outside of Madison Square Garden while people die in Iraq and Darfur. And while we are just as disapointed as any other fan at the Knicks atrocious start, . WE ARE NOT THAT GUY!
Sincerely,
Charles Modiano
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Co-signed — but your plan ‘b’ makes me queasy (besides the idea of benching a bona fide 20/10 guy, not sure if that frontcourt can provide enough cover for backcourt lapses in defense).
Yeah, that’s why it was plan B!
Any starting 5 with Curry in it is flawed, watch him on defense (focus on only him) and you see why we always fall behind by double digits. He misses his defensive assignments just about every time down. His minimal effort frustrates me to no end.
Check the Knick record when Marbury scores over 20 and the Knicks are relatively healthy (not missing starters) in the last 3 years. The Knicks are over .500 in those games. The two most significant wins this season came when Marbury scored over 20 against the Nuggets and Jazz. Marbury should regain his role as the team’s #1 offensive weapon. UNLEASH Stephon and the Knicks play much better. Agree with everything else you have suggested. Excellent work!
– Marzak, I know what your saying but one bad interior defender could be covered up to some degree.
– Jimmy, I completely agree, however, for some people that is a tough sell. He is our best bet.
MODI- It doesn’t need to be sold. It needs to be reality. The fans shouldn’t run the Knicks. Guys who know basketball should. Right now, Isiah the GM is running the team and not Isiah the coach. Marbury is the best. The best player on the team should be taking the most shots. It’s simplicity is so obvious, it’s spooky Isiah refuses to go with it. Isiah has to cease with the defense of Crawford and Curry.
I won’t quibble with either plan a or b (or any of the aforementioned suggestions), but I would like to offer a reason why Thomas may not have been so quick to change lineups. Actually, you alude to it yourself while discussing the record-setting “LB 42.”
Isn’t it possible that, in order to keep the team motivated, Thomas had to avoid the debacle that was Larry Brown’s “coaching” job two years ago? I mean, if the season gets off slowly, and two weeks in the coach is making changes, don’t the players start having LB flashbacks?
I’m with you, I think now is a good time to make changes. But any time before now, especially only two weeks in? I’m not so sure…
Jimmy, fair enough, you are right. …how true…
LP, LB was at one extreme and IT is at the other extreme. Both are destructive. IMO, there are TWO theories that might answer your question. The first is touched upon by previous poster Jimmy when he says “Isiah the GM is running the team and not Isiah the coach”… Frequent postr statesman has also offered that Isiah the GM formed certain relationships with players as GM which has clouded his objectivity as a coach. Did he even make them promises? Who knows. But the usage of Crawford, Curry, and Q often defy explanation…
Let me offer a second theory: call it the gun-shy after marbury theory. Thomas overreacted in the 5th game and benched Marbury. The ensuing fiasco may have cost the season. Perhaps the whole internal and external experience was so crushing to the Knicks that he became afraid to pull the trigger on another line-up change.
My guess is that it is a combination of these two theories.
1 question, why isn’t this posted on nyknicks.com? i mean you are an employee, aren’t you? or on isiahthomas.com, maybe you work for him.
Modi,
Since DRaft Bight and at the announcement of the Randolph trade, I’ve had problems with Curry and foresaw problems this year. Funny as it may be, the same thing happened to JJames when Curry came to town–the loss of BMOC status.
The MSM put on video a Curry saying: “It is not up to me to make the Zach trade work, it is up to Isiah”. He was asked if playing with Zach is going to work consider ing they both thrive in the low post.
Considering the home invasion, there are no reasons why Curry and Zach should not have been working out together over the summer. The NYer in me says that Curry is sabotaging the move with his play and decreasing his value as a tradeable asset.
Let’s hold out hope that all this process and blow-outs are part of a greater plan since Zeke says he likes the direction of the team.
Thanks for your reply, Modi (all of them), the theories you offer from Jimmy, statesman and yourself all seem plausible.
Like I’ve said before, it’s just nice to be able to talk sensibly with true Knicks fans nowadays. The climate out here is bananas, as you well know. It’s like Zeke is Malcolm X, which is kinda funny because I’d be shocked to discover that Zeke had ever set foot in Harlem!
Oh, and it’s your blog and everything, but I hope you don’t feel compelled to respond to “abcd.” He/she/it is a big part of the negative “climate” I was just talking about…
– Steady, good point on Curry. I have given up on the tandem playing together for defensive reasons. Perhaps that the NYer in me! You can say that I’ve reversed position on the Zach trade because of its impact on youth development. In the end his greatest value to us might be that he turns Curry into a trade chip. Of course, Curry must raise his stock like last year. Zach’s contract is probably too bvig to trade.
– LP, thanks, no I WILL respond to abcd and the only obvious response that abcd might understand is this: “I stopped posting on nyknicks.com because James Dolan bought out my overblown contract after they told me that i was underperforming.”
MODI
Here is a rant I put up at KnicksDefense. I would like to get your take on the suggestion since I think it would help smooth over the lineup change Thomas will likely initiate come the Knicks game against Orlando.
“I don’t know about you guys but I think that Zeke owes a personal Mea Culpa to his players.
These are the following reasons:
1) His stuborness and overextended loyalties to the players he’s placed in the starting 5 from the beginning of the year up until now has greatly contributed to the frustrating results on the court.
2) Because he should want to mend bridges with his players in the lockeroom, especially if there is any substance to the speculation that he has “lost†the locker room.
While Zeke has been cautious to call out his players, partly due to JD’s media policy, but perhaps also in part as not to lose or further lose the locker room, he has done so twice so far. The first time being the “no heart†tirade. The second chance being the admission that the starting five he has been putting out is not working. We all have heard that Thomas “may have†lost the locker room, and his incidents with Q, Marbury, and Curry being may support that contention. If so then a public Mea Culpa to his team would be a good chance to show his players the importance of being accountable for one’s own actions.
3. A sincere apology would take some of the sting off of what is sure to be a delicate subject of benching many of the players who are sure to suffer bruised egos from no longer being in the starting line up.
4. The apology would likewise put into context the coach’s underutilization of players, who appear to have regressed- Balkman etc, and perhaps help them understand that they may still have a vital role to play in any Knick turn around.
The team needs someone to lead by example. A heart felt mea culpa, perhaps even a public one, would set a tone for everyone in the organization being held accountable for thier actions or lack thereof.”
Also check out my post number 214 where I try to split the difference between Live’s and your side of the Marbury v. Crawford as starting PG debate.
Merrry Christmas.
O & B, thanks for the post. My initial reaction is this.
Private mea culpa, definitely. No question about it.
Public? I love the idea in general from a leadership point of view, but I’m not so sure. Not because of the value to the players, but I am not sure how that will play out in the NY media which will run with it and ridicule over and over. Sure they ridicule anyway, but it might be added fuel.
I really have to think about it because I believe in it as a leadership concept. Hell, if the new line-ups prove that this roster does suck, that Balkman can’t play, that there is no potential, then I will write a Book of isiah humble pie column my damn self.
I just don’t know though, the tabloids are so damn vicious and even if he does the right thing, they will turn it into the wrong thing…
MODI
Definitely understand your levity on my suggestion.
To that end a sincere but private mea culpa to the Knicks before the game against the Orlando Magic should be issued by Isiah.
Skiles is out in Chicago.
Temple,
If Skiles is out…Are they replacing him with someone internal?… If so why now?.. and not at the beginning of the season?
Temple,
Well…It seems John Paxson is is on his period…and instead of of a maxi pad,Scott Skiles brought back a thom-pad..! Tyrus Thomas….who was sent to Chicago for the the rights to LaMarcus Aldridge to Portland for Tyrus Thomas.
Aldridge is averaging 18 points & 7 rebounds, and Thomas has been workin’ on his latest album with Amy Winehouse.
Next up…Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle,Mike Fratello?
WoW…i dont feel so bad as a Knicks Fan.
All we gotta do is get blown out by the Celtics and Rockets… and have our top draft pick record with an addict an Isiah is outta here?
The Celtics already blow us out..!Somebody get Wilson Chandler and Britney on the line…
What Coach from Chicago should be FIRED?,
A.)Isiah Thomas
B.)Isiah Thomas
C.)Isiah Thomas
D.)all the above
NICE. REAL NICE MODI. The only major objection I have is putting Mardy at point. Yes, I realize that he is the only other true point on the team, but he constantly looks several months behind amd he probably is since he did not get to play in the Summer league and has had no real burn to speak of up to this point. The Knicks don’t have time to recover with him on the floor rehabbing and getting physically and mentally into game shape. Additionally, putting him in the rotation moves either Crawford or Nate out of the rotation. If you want hustle you keep Nate. And right now, you don’t replace Crawford with Mardy.
You know my feelings on Steph. His skills when he is mentally right would put the Knicks over the hump. He has not been mentally right for most of the season and he should not start. Just as the Knicks don’t have the luxury of allowing Mardy to play himself back into NBA shape, they don’t have the time for Steph to play himself back to mental health as a starter.
The Steph starts now promoters continue to ignore that he is not mentally well and that his teammates have not played well with him on the floor. I know, I know, it’s his teammates’ fault.
THe more I think about it, the more I see this as Isiah’s worst coaching job to date and he really can be a very good coach. This trial and the pressures of coaching in the city have clearly affected his performance. That’s too bad. I hope he can get his act together, becuase the underlying message of this excellent post is that this team needs to be coached. Unlike the Celtics with three stars that you can just throw on the floor for 42 minutes and get a win, Isiah needs to use that intellect and manage this team for most of those 48 minutes. He does not have the player that can lead his system on a consistent basis.
MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS MODI!
A few weeks ago on Knickdefense.com (BEST KNICK FAN SITE IN THE LAND, BUT NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART, or THE MALICIOUS SLANDERER, SO IF YOU VISIT COME CORRECT OR SOME REAL KNICK FANS WILL GET JIGGY WITH YOU IN A HEART BEAT)
“that a change was a coming, and we didn’t know when or where, but we do know why.”
You oepn letter and suggestions are reasonable and plausible. Of course any of US might disagree on a point here or there, but I believe your real point is, “A CHANGE IS NECESSARY.”
Why squibble on the specifics, when it seems necessary at this juncture to try something, anything different, then what we’ve seen so far.
MODI, I admire your courage and your commitment and your passion for OUR BELOVED NEW YORK KNCIKS…
Isiah Thomas, DO YOU SHARE OUR PASSSION AND COMMITMENT; IF YOU DO, THEN SHOW THE COURAGE TO MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES ARE NECESSARY TO BRING A CHAMPIONSHIP TO OUR BELOVED NYC AND ITS TRUE PASSIONATE FANS.
Keep it POPPIN SCHOLAR…
“This trial and the pressures of coaching in the city have clearly affected his performance.”
– Ehus, despite the playoff appearances, Paxson has done a worse job than Isiah. Paxson walked into a dream situation in Chicago in 2003 and Isiah walked into a nightmare. More on this: http://www.cosellout.com/?p=167
– Lives, i think that his personal relationships and loyalties to certain players formed as GM (originally statesman’s position) has probably been the biggest hinderance. I’m not sure if that will go away. Let’s see. …also, let’s put our ongoing discussion on Steph in the parking lot for a while until he gets some more games under his belt…
– Cooley, let me reiterate what you have just said: http://www.Knicksdefense.com is the best knick fan site in the land. No question about it. Happy holidays