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	<title>Comments on: D. K. Wilson: The Willie Mays of Sports Writing</title>
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		<title>By: top mistakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>top mistakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Willie Mays Set To Be Passed By Rodriguez - Is Anything For Real?</title>
		<link>http://www.cosellout.com/2008/01/19/the-willie-mays-of-sports-writing-d-k-wilson-media%e2%80%99s-21st-century-color-line/comment-page-1/#comment-62318</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie Mays Set To Be Passed By Rodriguez - Is Anything For Real?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their part, Mays and many other Hall of Fame players in professional sports have stood behind some steroid users [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MODI</title>
		<link>http://www.cosellout.com/2008/01/19/the-willie-mays-of-sports-writing-d-k-wilson-media%e2%80%99s-21st-century-color-line/comment-page-1/#comment-7003</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim. And disagreement is always welcome. Do you know that DavidMac hasn&#039;t ven been banned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim. And disagreement is always welcome. Do you know that DavidMac hasn&#8217;t ven been banned?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.cosellout.com/2008/01/19/the-willie-mays-of-sports-writing-d-k-wilson-media%e2%80%99s-21st-century-color-line/comment-page-1/#comment-6958</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though 230923 days behind on dropping in my own appreciation for this piece on a great writer, I agree that your own in-depth breakdown of DWil only goes to show that you&#039;re also one of the most thorough writers out here. Talent recognizes talent. I enjoy your site, DWil&#039;s and Mizzo&#039;s... especially for the realness. And when I disagree with something, I know my comment won&#039;t get tossed into the wind and forgotten... a discussion ensues. On discussions.................. OBAMA &#039;08

PEACE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though 230923 days behind on dropping in my own appreciation for this piece on a great writer, I agree that your own in-depth breakdown of DWil only goes to show that you&#8217;re also one of the most thorough writers out here. Talent recognizes talent. I enjoy your site, DWil&#8217;s and Mizzo&#8217;s&#8230; especially for the realness. And when I disagree with something, I know my comment won&#8217;t get tossed into the wind and forgotten&#8230; a discussion ensues. On discussions&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; OBAMA &#8217;08</p>
<p>PEACE!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MODI</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Temple, 

-- I don&#039;t know if I share the assumption that mainstream media needed Ralph Wiley. He worked his way up through the Oakland Tribune before landing a gig with Sports Illustrated. Had this never happened we may not even have ever heard or read of Wiley. At best he would have landed a job within the black press where some eyes saw his work, but most likely he takes some other job like so many other talented aspiring journalists who were never granted access and didn&#039;t want to write for peanuts. So the first question becomes: are we better off with Ralph Wiley landing that mainstream gig and with more eyes on his work?

-- There is also another possible alternative that you have not considered: the dual role of writing in mainstream and blogging. This seems to be the way of the future for ALL writers. Let&#039;s take Zirin: he now writes for SI&#039;s website, but there is little indication that he has changed his style. At the same time he has his own blog where he writes additional articles which may or may not be SI material. Are we all better off with more eyes on Zirin&#039;s work? ...assuming that his style remains? I think so.

-- Now let me be clear PHILOSOPHICALLY I am right there with you about a dire need for an independent press. As is always the case, these things become issues of what is possible. I don&#039;t know if I share your optimism, and frankly, that hurts me to say. ...Let&#039;s say you got a band of 10 good writers who agreed to write for and eat peanuts 7 days a week, there would still be 3 obstacles. 1) start-up costs. 2) consistent advertising. Then, if successful: 3) not becoming the machine they despise (see BET), and 4) not getting bought out directly by a bigger machine (see BET-Viacom).

I think that ultimately, I share your dream like you would not believe, but I just don&#039;t know about feasibility on many levels. 

Now as far as individual writers are concerned, I don&#039;t begrudge any writer that I respect for going mainstream so long as they stay true to their work. But if Zirin ever starts writing like Lupica to get a little more coin, then you best be sure that COSELLOUT will have that shit covered!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Temple, </p>
<p>&#8211; I don&#8217;t know if I share the assumption that mainstream media needed Ralph Wiley. He worked his way up through the Oakland Tribune before landing a gig with Sports Illustrated. Had this never happened we may not even have ever heard or read of Wiley. At best he would have landed a job within the black press where some eyes saw his work, but most likely he takes some other job like so many other talented aspiring journalists who were never granted access and didn&#8217;t want to write for peanuts. So the first question becomes: are we better off with Ralph Wiley landing that mainstream gig and with more eyes on his work?</p>
<p>&#8211; There is also another possible alternative that you have not considered: the dual role of writing in mainstream and blogging. This seems to be the way of the future for ALL writers. Let&#8217;s take Zirin: he now writes for SI&#8217;s website, but there is little indication that he has changed his style. At the same time he has his own blog where he writes additional articles which may or may not be SI material. Are we all better off with more eyes on Zirin&#8217;s work? &#8230;assuming that his style remains? I think so.</p>
<p>&#8211; Now let me be clear PHILOSOPHICALLY I am right there with you about a dire need for an independent press. As is always the case, these things become issues of what is possible. I don&#8217;t know if I share your optimism, and frankly, that hurts me to say. &#8230;Let&#8217;s say you got a band of 10 good writers who agreed to write for and eat peanuts 7 days a week, there would still be 3 obstacles. 1) start-up costs. 2) consistent advertising. Then, if successful: 3) not becoming the machine they despise (see BET), and 4) not getting bought out directly by a bigger machine (see BET-Viacom).</p>
<p>I think that ultimately, I share your dream like you would not believe, but I just don&#8217;t know about feasibility on many levels. </p>
<p>Now as far as individual writers are concerned, I don&#8217;t begrudge any writer that I respect for going mainstream so long as they stay true to their work. But if Zirin ever starts writing like Lupica to get a little more coin, then you best be sure that COSELLOUT will have that shit covered!</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;you&quot; in my previous comment is generic.  It&#039;s not directed at any single person - especially since many of us confront this very choice on a daily basis.  It&#039;s something for &quot;I&quot; to contemplate.  I suspect that generally speaking, we end up with a little of both: silenced/modified voices and that feeling of being fleeced --- whether at the supermarket (or food co-op); at a car dealership; with a realtor; etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;you&#8221; in my previous comment is generic.  It&#8217;s not directed at any single person &#8211; especially since many of us confront this very choice on a daily basis.  It&#8217;s something for &#8220;I&#8221; to contemplate.  I suspect that generally speaking, we end up with a little of both: silenced/modified voices and that feeling of being fleeced &#8212; whether at the supermarket (or food co-op); at a car dealership; with a realtor; etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temple3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph Wiley never needed mainstream media outlets to be successful.  Those outlets needed him far more than they needed him.  In fact, one could certainly argue that the very idea of seeking employment in these houses is colonial.  These MSM outlets are not voting booths.  They are businesses owned and operated by persons with an immediate and vested financial interest in maintaining the status quo. 

When these organizations hire outside of their profile it is to achieve one of two aims: to silence/modify an effective voice OR to tap a new market.  So, the question is: In seeking to work for the MSM, are you trying to have an independent voice silenced or are you trying to piss away hard earned dollars for consumption on frivolous shit?  

It&#039;s gotta be one of the two.

There is another path.  It requires some discipline and some hard work to build a new vehicle.  There are plenty of advertising dollars from ethical businesses looking to grow.  There are plenty of young people who can make this work if given a chance.  What&#039;s required is for writers to de-emphasize being paid market rates until a new mechanism is established to support long-term replicable options.

This can be done another way.  At some point freeing the mind requires freeing the sources of revenue from flawed origins.  That&#039;s the hard work - and the payoffs are much greater than anyone these MSM outlets are willing to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Wiley never needed mainstream media outlets to be successful.  Those outlets needed him far more than they needed him.  In fact, one could certainly argue that the very idea of seeking employment in these houses is colonial.  These MSM outlets are not voting booths.  They are businesses owned and operated by persons with an immediate and vested financial interest in maintaining the status quo. </p>
<p>When these organizations hire outside of their profile it is to achieve one of two aims: to silence/modify an effective voice OR to tap a new market.  So, the question is: In seeking to work for the MSM, are you trying to have an independent voice silenced or are you trying to piss away hard earned dollars for consumption on frivolous shit?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s gotta be one of the two.</p>
<p>There is another path.  It requires some discipline and some hard work to build a new vehicle.  There are plenty of advertising dollars from ethical businesses looking to grow.  There are plenty of young people who can make this work if given a chance.  What&#8217;s required is for writers to de-emphasize being paid market rates until a new mechanism is established to support long-term replicable options.</p>
<p>This can be done another way.  At some point freeing the mind requires freeing the sources of revenue from flawed origins.  That&#8217;s the hard work &#8211; and the payoffs are much greater than anyone these MSM outlets are willing to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: MODI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MODI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks des &amp; SML.

SML, I would argue that if Ralph Wiley were looking for a mainstream job in today&#039;s environment he would seriously have to adjust his style. ...anyway, just like you&#039;ve been doing for a few years now, just trying to do my part...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks des &amp; SML.</p>
<p>SML, I would argue that if Ralph Wiley were looking for a mainstream job in today&#8217;s environment he would seriously have to adjust his style. &#8230;anyway, just like you&#8217;ve been doing for a few years now, just trying to do my part&#8230;</p>
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